HOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1841 posts, RR: 47 Posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7778 times:
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Looks like DL has increased ATL-ICN to 5x weekly since May 1st, according to their PDF timetable. The 777 rotations seem to be rather tight this summer!
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Davescj From United States, joined Jun 2007, 1251 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7603 times:
Maybe DL is hoping for a fast merger approval? In any case, it is good to see DL pushing an Asian expansion. I can only think that this will help cash flow, as it should be a fairly sustainable route.
SESGDL From United States, joined Jan 2001, 2482 posts, RR: 16 Reply 2, posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7602 times:
Quoting HOONS90 (Thread starter): Looks like DL has increased ATL-ICN to 5x weekly since May 1st, according to their PDF timetable. The 777 rotations seem to be rather tight this summer!
This speaks volumes against all the people who claim ATL-ICN hasn't been doing so well. Good for DL!
Davescj From United States, joined Jun 2007, 1251 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7563 times:
Quoting HOONS90 (Thread starter): The 777 rotations seem to be rather tight this summer!
What is the usual turn around for an international flight on an aircraft this size? 2 hrs? Can it be done in less? I know the 767s that land in FCO are scheduled with a 2 hr turn around time (scheduled landing to scheduled push off), but if a flight lands late I've seen them have everything done and door closed in 90 min.
I also noticed on Boeing that DL has had two 777s delivered this year. I can't help but wonder if that is giving a bit of breathing room for these flights.
OOer From United States, joined Oct 2005, 768 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6870 times:
Quoting Davescj (Reply 3): I also noticed on Boeing that DL has had two 777s delivered this year. I can't help but wonder if that is giving a bit of breathing room for these flights.
No. Those 2 aircrafts are operating JFK-BOM only. The 2 planes that were previously used on that route are now used on ATL-PVG...so no breathing room. However....they do sit at JFK for quite a while during the day!!!! For about 14 hours to be exact...I wonder if DL could fill up that 777 to any location for a turn during the day? LAX maybe????
WorldTraveler From United States, joined Aug 2003, 4552 posts, RR: 17 Reply 6, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6847 times:
DL is also sending the 777 to GRU a couple days a week this summer. 8 airplanes are flying ATLNRT, PVG, and TLV daily, ICN 5X/week, DXB 6x/week, and GRU 2X/week with the usual daytime layover.
Other airlines could wish they could get that kind of utilization out of their fleets.
Granted, Delta has only had 8 T7 for years, they always had to be quite creative but in the last two years the schedules have been VERY tight. I remeber when T7's were flying to CDG and LGW...no more.
WorldTraveler From United States, joined Aug 2003, 4552 posts, RR: 17 Reply 8, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5980 times:
DL is no less creative with scheduling their 767s and they operate the world's largest fleet of them. DL has one of the highest utilizations for its 767s of any US network carriers.
maybe it's just good management and doing what's best for the stockholders.
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States, joined Sep 2007, 989 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5914 times:
Good point! I HATE when people get on that subject about "Delta has pulled 767's from Florida and deployed them on internation routes". As far as I know, Delta DID NOT fly the 763ER into Florida. They made rotations to SJU, JFK, CVG, SEA and a few other cities. The 764 on the other hand is a different story but the majority of expansions has been with the 763ER. They are simply utilizing that fleet MUCH BETTER than they did in the past.
LAXdude1023 From United States, joined Sep 2006, 2776 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5874 times:
Glad to hear ATL-ICN is doing well. Demand from ICN to the South must be getting stronger. KE just announce a year round increase of service to DFW as well (and thats with no alliance on either hub feeding it).
Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 8): maybe it's just good management and doing what's best for the stockholders.
Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 6): Other airlines could wish they could get that kind of utilization out of their fleets.
Ahh yes indeed. DL sure is wonderful! How long until they announce they are running a side business rescueing babies from burning buildings or that theyve found a cure for AIDS!
Seriously, though Im happy that there seems to be an increase of demand of service form Asia to the South and glad to see DL capitalize on it. AA at DFW and CO at IAH will soon follow im sure.
DLPMMM From United States, joined Apr 2005, 1923 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5727 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 10): Glad to hear ATL-ICN is doing well. Demand from ICN to the South must be getting stronger. KE just announce a year round increase of service to DFW as well (and thats with no alliance on either hub feeding it).
Ummmm,,, What the heck are you talking about?ICN is Skyteam member carrier Korean Air's primary hub. You do realize that Seoul (Gimpo) is primarily a domestic airport now (and has been for years).
LAXdude1023 From United States, joined Sep 2006, 2776 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5649 times:
Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 12): Ummmm,,, What the heck are you talking about?ICN is Skyteam member carrier Korean Air's primary hub. You do realize that Seoul (Gimpo) is primarily a domestic airport now (and has been for years).
Sorry maybe I worded it poorly. AA and KE are not partners in any way. Since the flight has no feed on the DFW end of it like it does at ATL, I think that speaks to the increase of local traffic in the DFW area to ICN and Asia.
JumboJet From United States, joined Dec 2003, 1095 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5548 times:
When Delta takes delivery of there next rounds of 77L's, what are the planned routes for them? Are they going to take over some currently operated 77ER routes and then the 77ER's start a new route like what they did with PVG?
United1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1263 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5531 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 9): As far as I know, Delta DID NOT fly the 763ER into Florida.
A few years ago (1999) they has several ERs in what the safety cards termed a "767-300ER Hybrid", basically an ER with a domestic seating configuration fitted, I ended up flying one between ATL and MCO. Those were some of the first aircraft redeployed to international routes when the overseas expansion began.
JumboJet From United States, joined Dec 2003, 1095 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5490 times:
Quoting BCA2005 (Reply 16): Quoting JumboJet (Reply 14):
When Delta takes delivery of there next rounds of 77L's, what are the planned routes for them?
Maybe ATL-JNB nonstop?
The next 77L's are coming to DL in only 6 to 7 months, so I am sure announcements will have to come shortly.
Pnh2atl From United States, joined Dec 2007, 21 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5423 times:
Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 11): I thought DL was using the B763ER's on a couple of flights out of FLL/ATL per day. Or are they the Non ER's ?
At some point Boeing stopped making the the -300 and only made -300ER. So all the 767s DL got after that point were ERs configured and used domestically. Bigger engines and some additional redundant systems to allow for ETOPS.
I am pretty sure that all the domestic ERs are now configured for intl ops.
Hardiwv From Netherlands, joined Oct 2004, 4986 posts, RR: 39 Reply 19, posted (2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5279 times:
Any chance DL could put its code on the newly launched KE LAX-GRU B772 3 x week? It would be a manner to increase supply to Brazil and provide pax with a gateway to Brazil from the West coast.
Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 6): DL is also sending the 777 to GRU a couple days a week this summer. 8 airplanes are flying ATLNRT, PVG, and TLV daily, ICN 5X/week, DXB 6x/week, and GRU 2X/week with the usual daytime layover
Correct, DL will deploy the B772 to GRU 2 x week this Summer due to strong performance of the route. GIG also shows excellent performance and got similarly upgraded from B763 to B764 daily. As a matter of fact, DL deployment of the B772 to GRU was part of a deal with the Brazilian authorities to boost supply considering that GRU now has lack of gates and sometimes DL flights even park on remote. DL JFK-GRU daily which had a weak start is now generating some good cash showing good numbers both in terms of yields and loads.
With the lack of seats and the strong Brazilian currenty this Summer appears to be very strong for US-Brazil routes.
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